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North Vikings predated Columbus exploring North America – Part 2 chapter 3

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Leidarvisir och borgaskipan delivered to Pope in 1134:

Sea between Markland and Vinland mentioned by Nicholas Bergthorsson in Leidarvisir och borgaskipan written in first half 1100’s. One copy was given to the Pope 1134) (IEJ July 2015: Please note that a Diss was published 2012 dealing with Leidarvisir, see below)

Leidarvisir and borgaskipan: ”… North of Germany is Denmark. Ocean extending into the Baltic Sea, near Denmark. Sweden is east of Denmark and Norway in the north. North of Norway’s Finnmark. … Beyond Greenland, southward, there Helluland and beyond it Markland, from there it is not far to Vinland. which some people think stretching all the way to Africa. England and Scotland is an island but is separate kingdoms. Iceland is a large island to the north of Ireland …. ”
and
From Biarmaland northward all the way until you reach Greenland. South of Greenland lies Helluland, then Markland , then it is not far to Vinland the Good. Which some believe extends to Africa. and if that’s true, the sea must extend between Vinland and Markland..…
Proof of early contacts Greenland – North America

In Sweden we have the final proof that the Norse-Greenlandic Vikings not only visited L’anse Meadow on Newfoundland but also had knowledge of ALL of North America from Mexico over Mississippi Missouri; the islands south of NA in Mexican Golf and from Mississippi Missouri all coast round Florida up as well as Labrador and Hudson Bay…..
Final proof?
Well let’s look at the Official records for when each part of NA was explored and remember that the final proof not only prove that NA was wellknown but also had seen a carthograph drawing land on a map.

But let’s start with the Official exloration history…

Official history:

1492 Columbus first voyage reached somewhere in Bahaman Islands
1492 November Columbus reached an island he named Dominica and sailed around some time from island to island.

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More was known in 12th Century re NA than usually is known.
Please read: East of Denmark is Sweden, then comes Oland Gotland, then Hälsingland Vermland and the two Kwenlands, located north of ‘Biarmaland’. Biarmaland is an inhabited land which extands northwards all the way to Greenland. South of Greenland is Helluland, then Markland, from it is not far to Vinland the Good. Which some people think extands all way to Africa. If so, there must be an extended sea area between Vinland and Markland. …

Two things:
* Either the real Vinland was on the other side of what’s now known as Hudson Bay. It could so be. Mind you. In second half of 1300’s King Hakon, son of Swedish-Norwegian King Magnus Eriksson and his wife Bianka/Blanka of Namur It was said that King Håkon (Hakon) acquired them when he and his war fleet passed the coast of Greenland, at the timeFrom chapter 9 Historia de gentibus septentrionalibus written by Olaus Magnus 1490-1557 which implies that the weather situation (read climate) was much better in those days than today,
or
The real Vinland was located along the American east necessarily in NA.

* It’s always good to know the history of something, no matter if it’s a country, an island or the Northern Hemisphere i Western Atlantic.

norah4history

sent to soc.history.medieval June 5th 2011

Nicholas Bergthorsson, by some scholars believed to have been the
‘mythic’ Nicholas of Thingeyer who in 1120’s visited and carthographed
Vinland.

Background:
Greenland, Vinland and Nicholas Bergthorsson (d 1158)
© Johansson Inger E, extrakt from manuscript Greenland and the
Greenlanders, 1995 rev 1997-2008

East of Denmark is Sweden, then comes Oland Gotland, then Hälsingland Vermland and the two Kwenlands, located north of ‘Biarmaland’.
Biarmaland is an inhabited land which extands northwards all the way to Greenland. South of Greenland is Helluland, then Markland, from it is not far to Vinland the Good. Which some people think extands all way to Africa. If so, there must be an extended sea area between Vinland and Markland. It is said that Thorfinn Karlsefne was cutting wood [in Markland] before he went out to seek Vinland. He came to where they thought the country was, but it was…

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