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Börjar undra om man skall skratta eller gråta? Nivån på de sk. forskarna och deras experiment/studier blir lägre och lägre. Undrar om ens en 9:e klassare hade fått godkänt i biologi, geografi och fysik på så låg nivå vid utförandet av studier?

För att inte tala om att underlag för slutsatser dragits från mycket suspekta beräkningar grundade på 1981-fantasters hypotes om hur beräkningar av temperatur skall ske:

Det är på den låga vetenskapliga nivån som IPCC:s klimatpanel grundar sina slutsatser…..
Stackars s… på IPCC – de som idag presenterar Slutrapport om klimatet presenteras, SvD 2 oktober 2014 Busted redan innan rapporten ligger på bordet.

Kommer någon av Er ihåg förra årets värstingar ned det gäller låg kvalité på forskning?

Nature had 2 – 0 in ‘game’ with so called CO2 experts…. now it’s close to 3 – 0….. Snow weather delay rescue…..
Some old song lines comes to mind…. …when will they ever learn…

Reality exceeds poems, Norah4you 28 december 2013

An Antarctic blizzard has halted an Australian icebreaker’s bid to reach a Russian ship trapped for a week with 74 people onboard, rescuers said on Monday.

The Aurora Australis had to return to open waters about 18 nautical miles from the stranded Akademik Shokalskiy because of poor visibility, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA), which is co-ordinating the rescue, told Reuters
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A Chinese icebreaker, the Snow Dragon, has been halted by thick ice within sight of the ship. The Snow Dragon had a helicopter on board that could be used to rescue passengers if the Aurora Australis failed to get through, AMSA said earlier, but the aircraft was grounded by the snow.

”We can’t fly a helicopter in these conditions either. There is essentially nothing we can do at this point of time,” Martin said.

The Aurora Australis would have to wait for the weather to improve before a second rescue attempt, she added.Rescue of Akademik Shokalskiy stopped by Antarctic blizzard, cbc news Dec 30, 2013 12:35 AM ET quote from Antartic news early 30 december

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Can’t help not understanding how it’s possible for so many alarmists around the world not to have learnt the Archimedes’ principle every student must have been taught not once but several times 😛

That fools don’t listen nor comprehend the impacts of the stupid ‘experts’ travelling to Antarctica in order to prove melting Polar Ice but instead being stucked up in SUMMER ice when their ship froze into ice…… well Reality exceeds poems No questions in that respect…..:

Record cold doesn’t disprove global warming, CNN January 7 2014 Might be true – but Human history does! In 980 – 1431 AD the Greenlanders had warmer as did all in Northern hemisphere before the so called Little Ice Age There never ever been a risk of human caused global warming!

ARCHIMEDES PRINCIPLE

, simple explanation

Archimedes’ principle is a physical law known since Archimedes’ days:
All objects reduced, pressed or held down in liquid puch away the equvivalent size of the object’s mass.
Please observe that it’s a difference between weight due to gravity and mass. While both can be using the same ‘weight’ in daily speaking, the former isn’t a physical term.
* Mass, measured in kilogram is the amount of material the object in question has.
* Weight is the gravititational influence on an object. That’s a forse and due to that weight is measured in Newton.

In ordinary life the differences aren’t clear. Kilogram/Pounds/Stones is used in daily speaking for both.

Archimedes principle goes for ice-cub in drinks as well as for Ice shields due to Ice Age as well as for Boats or Ice sheet in Sea and remains of Ice Ages long ago such as Glaciars on land! When Ice melt the melted Ice never ever will rise levels neither in drink-glasses nor in Sea! Landrise which is a retarded movement starts at once. Following a quicker uprise-curve in beginning – slowing down over time.
For more information re. Archimes principle Archimedes principle, Encyclopedia Brittanica

California Coastal Commission to solicit input on Global warming driven sea level policy document, Wattsupwiththat 2014/01/08

The bloggarticle refers to a pdf-file: DRAFT Sea-Level Rise Policy Guidance, The California Coastal Commission Announces the Release of Draft Sea-Level Rise Policy Guidance for Public Review Please notice that they say the commentperiod October 14 2013 – January 15 2014<span style In other words they have made comments on days to come….. I didn’t know that California Coastal Commission had skills to predict weather for following days edited long before the document been published! Fortunetellers from star-positions or what?

Well the Elderly used to say: fools and extremists never learn ….. might be correct.

More who have forgotten the basic they once been taught….. Carbon storage: How does soil store CO2?, Science20.com January 8th 2014
EU Commission seeks March start for CO2 permit withdrawal, Reuters 8 jan 2014
the worst dravel I have read for a long long time: Don’t shoot the climate change messenger, the Sydney Morning Herald january 9 2014 Are they real? Or a they trying to save spent money?

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Same procedure as last year?
same procedure as every year, James
” in Sweden a tradition for 50 years watching what we call ‘Grevinnan och betjänten’. (No idea what the English origin’s title is)

Can’t helping remembering those two quotes in relation to those so called scholars now saved using more CO2 themselves than normally occurs during any summer in the Antarctic…. but still less open ice than 100 years ago when the exploring of the Antarctic were the new science. Those were the days.

And there are, believe it or not, still media around our World helping those who hadn’t done their homework before heading to the Antarctic spreading non-correct informations ”round and around”:

As the planet marked its fourth hottest year on record, a study published in the journal Nature found increasing levels of carbon dioxide will lead to thinner ocean clouds and reduce their cooling impact, causing temperature rises of at least 5.6F (3C) over the course of the century.

The team of scientists said the findings show some climate models have been too “optimistic” and previous estimates of a minimum temperature rise of only 2.7F (1.5C) could now be discounted. The optimistic models did not properly assess the impact of water evaporation, which sometimes rises only a short distance into the atmosphere and causes updraughts that reduce cloud cover, the study found.

”These models have been predicting a lower climate sensitivity but we believe they’re incorrect,” Professor Steven Sherwood, from the University of New South Wales, told The Sydney Morning Herald.

”The net effect of [climate change] is you have less cloud cover.” Worlds climate warming faster than feard scientist say, telegraph.co.uk 7:14PM GMT 01 Jan 2014
They shouldn’t have tried the last part in the quote. The line regarding cloudes. Professor Steven Sherwood at least received his Bachelor degree in Physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1987…. he seems to have forgotten all he once must have learnt….
What the so called scientist showed was lacking knowledge of the Watercycle…. Here in Sweden that one used to be taught in 3th grade and then again i 7th-9th grade…..

Water cycle

The watercycle
image from fredrikhumfryskolan.blogspot.se/2012_11_01)

(Wordlist in the end of the article note 1)
There please read:
Grundskoleboken – vattnets kretslopp (Grundskola = 1st to 9th grade – Water cycle)

a) Vad menas med att vattnet avdunstar? (What is meant by the water evaporates?)

b) Varför är solen så viktig för vattnets kretslopp? (Why is sun so important to the water cycle?)

c) Hur bildas det moln? (What form the cloud?
What is meant by the water evaporates?
Why is the sun so important to the water cycle?
What form the cloud?

Fastfrusna räddade från Antarktis, GP 2 januari 2014
Passagerare räddade ur fastfrusna fartyget, Expressen 2 januari 2014
Alla passagerarna räddade, Aftonbladet 2 januari 2014
Alla passagerarna räddade, SvD 2 januari 2014
Lyckad evakuering i Antarktis, DN 2 januari 2014

More quotes from the clowns

Professor: Stuck ship doesn’t mean much, cnn.com/video 2014/01/02 SO the ship doesn’t mean much. In other words risking several ships’s crew in attempt to save the so called scholars doesn’t ….. Not even in my dreams I would have thought it possible for any scholar to be so egocentric.
Btw WHO is Professor Stuck? Which Subject? His credentials with or without a CV doesn’t seem to show up on Google search….

The team was attempting to retrace the steps of geologist Douglas Mawson, who led the Australasian Antarctic expedition between 1911 and 1913, and also to examine how the pristine environment had fared after 100 years of climate changes.

Strong winds sweeping sea ice against one side of the ship pinned it in place at Commonwealth Bay on Christmas Eve.

An attempt on New Year’s Day to evacuate the passengers by helicopter was also abandoned because of heavy rain, strong winds and cloud.

“The best thing that can be said about Antarctica is that conditions are unpredictable,” Young said.Antarctic rescue: All 52 ship passengers airlifted to safety, the guardian 20137jan/03
”The best thing that can be said about Antarctica is that conditions are unpredictable,” said by someone who think/thought himself being capable to predict climate and weather the next 100 years. Some never seem to understand when they fallen from the colons on own words…. 😛
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Quote from wattsupwiththat:
Reporting on the environmental movement has always required a certain sense of humor. In an earlier age, explorers who so badly underestimated the expanse of polar ice would surely have perished. But the 74 passengers and crew of the Akademik Shokalskiy are thriving. In this season of new beginnings we have here a chance to appreciate the amazing technologies created by free people. For they allow us to laugh at the folly of our fellow humans, rather than having to mourn their passing. –Editorial, The Wall Street Journal, 2 January 2014
Source: Newsbytes: Ship of fools resqued at last, wattsuwiththat 2014/01/02

Btw.

I take it that most persons reading this are unaware of the fact that those clowns used readings re. CO2 from a vulcano, most of them choosed one in Hawaii…..
but
every vulcano on Earth produce CO2 not only while active but for all times to come. The amount of CO2 isn’t constant. It’s depending on the force with in the vulcano. When the fox counts the chickens, Norah4you 2010/08/10

Sasja Lundström skrev 2014-01-02 00:42: in Discus censured…
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Please get your ”facts” streight!

Annual emmisions of carbon dioxide … (all metric)
… of man: 29 Gton
… of Mt. Etna: 4 – 25.5 Gton (avg. ~14 Gton)
… of Popocatepetl: 2.3 – 14.6 Gton
… of Oldoinyo Lengai: 2.6 Gton
… of Augustine: 2.2 Gton
… of Mt. St. Helens: 1.7 Gton
… of Stromboli: 1.1 Gton
… of Kilauea: 1 Gton
… of White Islands: 0.9 Gton

Source volcanoes: McClelland et al.
Source man: skepticalscience.com

Note! Values above are all estimates with one significant difference: those for the volcanoes are based on real measurements. The one of man is a pure computer product and therefore a very rough guess. (It isn’t difficult to realize why …) Also, skepticalscience.com is a pro AGW site, so twisted ”facts” are presented there.

Something important: Only a handful of total ~150 active volcanoes around the world are mentioned above, all above sea level. Dormant and ”dead” volcanoes also emit carbon dioxide! Furthermore, there are a large number of ”white” and ”black smokers” below sea level, all emitting carbon dioxide. A count is in progress and today no one know exactly how many that exist. (Real) Scientists are aware that there are a large number of them.

Adding natural decomposing processes we get aprox. 700 Gton/year representing 95-98% of the total annual carbon dioxide cycle.

This is something you should have learned in mandatory school …! Special thanks to Sasja.
…..
I take it that you know that there are many hundreds of vulcanos under water not to mention those mentioned on land 🙂 😉 😛

Post scriptum:
round and around….. twist again, like we did last year… one of my own favorite tunes back in 60’s…..

😛

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Note 1:Havsvatten (Seawater)
avdunstning (evaporation)
kondensation (condensation)
nederbörd (precipitation)
transport (transport)
glaciär (glacier)
avrinning (runoff)
ytvatten (surface [water])
grundvatten (groundwater) [please note the difference in Swedish to: ]
markvatten (ground water) [ground water is the water close to the surface, while groundwater is the water deeper down where all water ends filtrated on land ends up]

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Some people never learn. Will they now?

Watts Up With That?

 An Icy Blast Of Scepticism Greets Climate Expedition

Rescuers in Antarctica have safely transferred all 52 passengers stranded on the ice-bound research vessel Akademik Shokalskiy. The Shokalskiy has been trapped since Christmas Eve. Its 22 crew are expected to remain on board to wait until the vessel becomes free. The ice-bound research vessel has been trapped since Christmas Eve. One of the aims is to track how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice is disappearing. —BBC News, 2 January 2014

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Some one ought to teach the so called experts writing in Nature what Science approach means…..

Latest stupidness:
……Despite the ambiguities, the exercise will make climate-risk analysis substantially more robust, says Johan Rockström, an expert on water resources at the University of Stockholm and director of the Stockholm Resilience Centre, who was not involved in the project.

“Impact models will never be able to provide the level of detail that ultimately matters for making a city or coastline climate-proof,” he says. “But they do serve as a first approximation to the severe problems deficient regions and nations are facing.”Water risk as world warms, nature.com 31 december 2013

Färre moln ger högre temperatur, SvD 1 januari 2014
quick translation Less clouds leads to higher temperatures. When will they ever learn?

Earlier blogarticle The ancient Romans, Norah4you 2013/12/31

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Since when does a scholar go without proper equipment when exploring or studying?
Mind you – no film script from Hollywood would have been belived had the scholar of climatology gone on a mission without equipment to make a proper weather forecast for the next day…

Watts Up With That?

Today, while shopping at lunchtime for some last minute year end supplies, I got one of the strangest cell-phone calls ever. It was from my friend John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel and Chief meteorologist at KUSI-TV in San Diego. He was calling via cell phone from his car, and he was on his way into the TV station early.

He started off by saying, ”Anthony, we have a really strange situation here”.

Then to my surprise, he relayed a conversation he had just had; a person on the Akademik Shokalskiy had reached out, because they didn’t have adequate weather data on-board. At first, I thought John was pulling my leg, but then as he gave more details, I realized he was serious.

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Partying? What can one call a ship where fools calling themselves experts send film after film with partying people also complaining that the beer is running short? 😛 ”The beer is running short” – Problems in Antarctica, Norah4you 28 december 2013

”Rescue situation in Antarctic remains unchanged,” the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) said in an update on Wednesday. ”Helicopter unable to fly in current weather conditions. Raining in area & winds 20-30 knots.”

Australian authorities, who are coordinating the rescue, plan to use the helicopter on board the Chinese-flagged icebreaker Xue Long to bring 52 passengers off the boat, leaving behind its 22 crew members.

They would then be taken by barge from the Xue Long to the Aurora Australis.

AMSA said the latest information was that the Chinese vessel was ”moving and manoeuvring slowly around the ice”, allaying fears that the Xue Long had itself become trapped.

”The Rescue Coordination Centre has no information indicating they are stuck in the ice at this time,” spokeswoman Lisa Martin said.

Passengers on the stranded ship had been following in the footsteps of Australian Sir Douglas Mawson and his 1911-1914 expedition and they greeted the New Year with cheer, singing an anthem they wrote to ring in 2014.Winds, rain put Antarctic ship rescue on hold, Bangkokpost 1 Jan 2014 08.49 local time Bangkok GMT 01.49

Fortsatt väntan för fastfrusna, Helsingborgs Dagblad 1 jan 2014
Fortsatt väntan för fastfrusna, SvD 1 jan 2014
Lång väntan för fastfrusna, GP 1 jan 2014
Fortsatt väntan för fastfrusna, Aftonbladet 1 jan 2014

Funniest comments of 2013 is due to these clowns own actions (hm?) found in The Antarctic ‘reserach’ fiasco, ‘would you, could you, in a boat’?, wattsupwiththat 2013/12/30 :

Chuck Nolan says:
December 30, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Found this in the comment section of The Independent.
“John Belushi 5 hours ago
Will it have any effect on (AGW) Al Gore Warming?”
I must be slower than I thought.
I never even saw that one coming.
AGW …. all this time the perfect acronym.
cn

Leo G says:
December 30, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Have I got this right? A pair of Australian professors whose names sound like Christmas Turkey and Fogwilly use research funds to organise a tourist trip PR stunt in Antarctica by chartering a ship with a name that sounds like MV Academic Shocks-are-likely. A bipolar expedition?

EO Peter says:
December 30, 2013 at 5:18 pm
This is more than a complete success, they proven the existence of ice-nine!

Robert of Ottawa says:
December 30, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Welcome to Polar Summer guys! Just imagine winter!

Joe Bastardi says:
December 30, 2013 at 3:31 pm
The most remarkable thing: They actually believe their own drivel.

Happy New Year to everyone.

Additional text 06.20 GMT 1 Jan 2014:
It took a while but the more true nature of definition for travellers onboard finally been read in bbc.com’s website…..

Notice: Tourists and scientists aboard a Russian ship, the MV Akademik Shokalskiy, which has been trapped for eight days in the Antarctic, have been keeping their spirits up by composing a song to celebrate the New Year.
Scientists trapped on ship in Antarctic keep spirits up, BBC news 31 December 2013 Last updated at 16:55 GMT
compare this with
Despite being trapped in Antarctic ice for more than a week, dozens of crew and passengers on board the Akademik Shokalskiy have celebrated the new year with good cheer.Festive new year cheer onboard ship trapped in Antarctic, BBC early 1 january 2014 GMT

It reminds me of the old song: What shall we do with the drunken sailor…… 🙂

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Har för någon timma sedan lagt ut en ny fakta sida under Miljöfrågan – Rent vatten:
True history of Greenpeace,Norah4you idag 31 december 2013

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provides us with quotes for situations like this…. The Antarctic research fiasco…., wattsupwith that 2013/12/30

Dumbest statement of the year 2013: “We’ve been so unfortunate – there was a massive breakout of very thick, old ice from the other side of the Mertz glacier, and it was swept to sea,” he said. “There’s just no way through it. Many of the icebreakers just can’t get through.”Antarctic rescue: helicopter to evacuate passengers from trapped shipVolunteers to clear a landing area on the ice after two icebreakers fail to reach the scientific research vessel, the Guardian 2013/dec/31 WELLCOME TO MOTHER NATURE ‘scientists’ but beware this isn’t unnatural not even in summertime i south….

The Old Roman quotes

Nac quicquam insipiente fortunato intolerabilius fieri potest. Pessimum inimicorum genus, laudantes. Qui tacet, consentit…..
Rerum omnium magister usus [IEJ: Source latinska citat ]

Cicero: Nac quicquam insipiente fortunato intolerabilius fieri potest. ”Nothing’s worse than a lucky dumbass.”
Unknown: Pessimum inimicorum genus, laudantes. ”flatterers are the worst type of enemies”
Unknown: Qui tacet consentit. ”He who remains silent consents”
Caesar: Rerum omnium magister usus. ”“Experience is the teacher of all things”

Rescue of icebound Antarctic ship faces setback, Washingtonpost 2013/12/27
Helicopter rescue planned for ship stranded in Antarctic, CNN December 31, 2013 — Updated 0309 GMT
Fastfruset nyårsfirande i Antarktis, SvD 31 december 2013 har leendena på de glada läpparna försvunnit när ölet tog slut 😛
Fastfruset nyårsfirande i Antarktis, DN 31 december 2013
Fastfruset nyårsfirande i Antarktis, Aftonbladet 31 december 2013 Notera att Aftonbladet ger källa i Moskva som ursprung till TT-AFP pressreleasen.
Fastfruset nyårsfirande i Antarktis, GP 31 december 2013
Kyligt nyårsfirande på fartyget i Antarktis, Expressen 31 december 2013

Is one guy better than the next? Or what? En del av dem ombord det i Antarktis fastfrusna fartyget ”Akademik Sjokalskij” ska evakueras av kinesiska helikoptrar – om vädret tillåter. Helikopter ska rädda fastfrusna, DN 31 december 2013
English text ”Some will be evacuated by Chinese helicopters from the ”Akademik Sjokalskij” in the Antarctic, IF the weather allows…

For more information re. Antarctic ‘research ship stuck in ice they thought didn’t exist: Nature wins over political sciences models, Norah4you 25 december 2013
and
Antarctic news early 30 december, Norah4you 30 december 2013

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When you need a good laugh, please read it to the end of the comments

Watts Up With That?

This will be a top ”sticky” post for awhile since interest is high – new stories will appear below this one – Anthony

UPDATE:Josh channels the boat people

UPDATE2: Another irony is discovered, this one doubly deep.  See update 2 below.

UPDATE3: see WUWT and Weatherbell help KUSI-TV with a weather forecasting request from ice-trapped ship in Antarctica Akademik Shokalskiy

UPDATE4:AMSA: Helicopter rescue of Akademik Shokalskiy likely to commence shortly

(It’s off again, then now its on again, with report the helicopter has landed)

UPDATE5: All the passengers (tourists and scientists) are off the ship

UPDATE6:Tough questions need to be asked

UPDATE7: Trouble on the rescue ship – reaching open water not so easy

As we reported previously on WUWT here and here, the saga of the ”climate scientists/tourists trapped in ice” continues to fascinate many. Now a second ship has given up on rescue, after the Chinese…

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