for the acceptance you made! Some people never learn, do they?
You can’t have a credit card without accepting that the credit card supplier are bound by laws to give authority access to your accounts. When? As soon as you use the card the tax authorities in your own country, no matter which nationality you have and no matter where you live, is entitled to have informations directly (from the credit card company as well as your own bank) when your transactions are over a certain limit a week. But not only that – and this been known at least since 1980’s – the credit card if linked directly or via your bank to one of the major credit cards, then you have accepted that it’s transactions are checked in the credit card company’s country…..
Further more: EU also accepted that transaction for all persons travelling to US can be checked by US.
But that’s more you have accepted: As soon as you opened a net-account, as well as every time you bought a computer/laptop/mobile etc etc you have had to accept that your traffic is checked – not only by your suppliers but also by the company owning the rights for the plattform but more.
You can’t send a SMS without allowing/accepting that it can be read by at least your supplier as well as the net supplier (and no matter if you are using a prepaid phone the laws includes them as well) and if it crosses a border also the countries who’s border the sms cross. SMS is send in ‘open air’ can be read by many others than NSA which btw are allowed to do what they do. That’s in accordance of what’s allowed in freedom rights of US Constitution. Please read the words there more carefully!
You have accepted and you are paying extra money yourself for some of the cloud services applications etc you are using which you have had to accept the rules and laws of the net. Laws and rules which been there ever since the net was a tine ‘baby’.
So Guardian, you are more than 34 years too late! Old news.
NSA collect millions text messages daily untargeted global sweep, the Guardian 2014/jan/16 BTW. Not collect the way a certain spion made you believe. Casting a net like you sometimes do when you are fishing (that’s according to every civil countries laws btw) but you missed more – if you by any chance are among those whose transactions or actions are checked by authorities due to suspicion of you being a terrorist, being money laundring or any of all the categories which simply can be summond as one of the five major priority for Interpol and UN, then I understand you are afraid…. otherwise it’s one of the best securities there is against all trying to attack democracy and person’s rights!
If you are innocent, you needn’t be worried at all!
Despite Obama’s NSA changes, phone records still collected, cnn.com January 17, 2014
Obama Outlines Calibrated Curbs on Phone Spying, nytimes.com 2014/01/18
Obama’s NSA speech five burning questions, nbc 2014/01/17
Obama NSA reforms end with plans to end goverment storage of call data, the Guardian 2014/jan/17 Guardian once again shown not understanding IT or trying to send desinformation. Do they think a like when on an Air port where there always is alerts for persons leaving things behind as well as for people saying ‘bomb’?
Congratulations, you accepted and you are paying for the acceptance you made! IF you have’t read the terms you have had to agree upon in order to be able to use a mobile account, cash/prepaid/or with an account, IF that’s the case don’t blame anyone else but yourself!
Swedish media:
NSA håvade in miljontals sms per dag, Aftonbladet 16 januari 2014
NSA håvade in miljontals sms per dag, GP 16 januari 2014
NSA samlade in 200 miljoner SMS dagligen, Expressen 16 januari 2014
NSA håvade in miljontals sms per dag, SvD 16 januari 2014
Blandade reaktioner på Obamas tal, GP 18 januari 2014
Finally: The figures given seems low given all the criminals that are under investigation and/or monitoring for all from terrorism, narcotic or drug dealing, pedophile suspicion or already convicted and other major crimes.
Vad menar du med att om man är oskyldig, så har man inget att oroa sig för? Det är ju precis tvärtom, är man oskyldig ska man verkligen oroa sig för varför våra politiker godkänt lagar som får till följd att allt vi gör övervakas. Vad värre är att ingen kan kontrollera vilka uppgifter som samlats och sparats om oss – det är skyddat av sekretess i nationens (vi själva) intresse.
GillaGilla
Du har inte fattat ett dugg Marckus! Lika lite har någon av alla de som försöker påstå att det de själva ”glömt bort” att läsa i det finstilta skulle vara en skandal att det gäller. Det är INTE våra politiker som godkänt UTAN DET ÄR DU OCH ALLA ANDRA SOM GODKÄNT! Har man skrivit på eller godkänt ett avtal! Så skall man inte klaga på att man skulle bli kontrollerad för förutsättningen för den vanlige Svenson/Swanson är att Mr Svenson/Swanson är misstänkt för allvarligt brott som faller under det som Interpol och/eller FN (UN) har listat.
Du ljuger dessutom! Det är mycket allvarligt. Efter att vi i Sverige fick FRA-lagen, så finns det tre kontrollerande instanser utöver att du själv redan tidigare enligt Datalagen äger rätt att begära ut uppgifter som finns registrerade om dig själv.
Att du inte kan begära ut från något av de (som minst) 3 andra ländernas säkerhetstjänster uppgifter om du tillhör någon av de kategorier som dessa länder valt att signalspana på, det är en annan sak.
OBSERVERA ATT FÖRE FRA-lagen var det i Sverige sittande regeringar som utan insyn ägde rätten att avgöra vilka som skulle spanas på. Det fanns också innan den nya Offentlighets- och Sekretesslagen här i Sverige KRAV på att alla överskottsuppgifter som kom in via signalspaning som beställts av upp till 17 olika myndigheter också var tvungna att sparas. Efter dessa nya lagarna så kontrollerar SIN, JO, JK samt Datainspektionen att så inte sker!
GillaGilla
I do like what you write here: ”if you by any chance are among those whose transactions or actions are checked by authorities due to suspicion of you being a terrorist, being money laundring or any of all the categories which simply can be summond as one of the five major priority for Interpol and UN,
then I understand you are afraid….
otherwise it’s one of the best securities there is against all trying to attack democracy and person’s rights!
If you are innocent, you needn’t be worried at all!”
GillaGilla
That’s the way it is.
Btw Sonja – I wondered earlier yesterday why same origin IP trying to attack my computer again from a certain place in London as well as from Italy and Australia. When I read the article by the Guardian I understood. Same procedure as last year, James was what they tried as they tried every time I write anything that Wikileaks, Greenpeace and other autonom groups don’t agree with!
GillaGilla
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